Janssen and Jacobs: Company Men
In October of 2005, Dave Holloway met with Chief Dompig in a parking lot in Oranjestad. The purpose of the meeting was to request that Dompig conduct a thorough interrogation of Koen Gottenbos. Dave Holloway told Dompig that he believed Koen was ready to crack.
Koen's name first surfaced in June when Beth Twitty was shown some of the suspect statements by the Prosecutor, Janssen, and in those statements Joran had made reference to Koen's father's boat. The same month Dave Holloway was told by one of Joran's classmates that they used Koen's father's boat to get rid of the body.
Koen Gottenbos lied to the police and the Gottenbos'have moved off Aruba. The assistant Prosecutor resigned over Janssen's refusal to question Koen. Only the father came in to speak for him.
Dave Hollowy requested they bring Koen in for questioning and that someone other than Dennis Jacobs conduct the interview. Dompig told Dave Holloway he would have to consult with Jacobs.
Later that evening Dave kept getting urgent phone messages from Dennis Jacobs. Dave was unable to answer his phone because he was searching a swamp but was aware of the calls. Dennis Jacobs even called Dave's office in Mississippi and told them it was urgent that he speak with Dave.
When Dave finally answered Jacobs calls he was frantic, almost panicked, wondering why Dave had met with Chief Dompig? Jacobs told Dave that he should not meet with Dompig without first consulting with him. Dave felt Jacobs was concerned that Dave would relay some info or evidence to Dompig without him being able to control it.
Insane and unprofessional?
Dennis Jacobs, the man who Dave first approached and was asked "how much money do you have?". Dennis Jacobs, a career narcotics officer ILLEGALLY appointed as lead investigator without experience in missing persons by Jan van der straaten. His appointment created hard feelings within the police department.
He is one of the only constant figures in the entire investigation, the man responsible for EVIDENCE.
Dennis Jacobs interviewed the suspects on May 31st, 2005 and he admitted that there were inconsistencies in their statements, however, he didn't think it was necessary to re-interview them for days after they lied about dropping Natalee off at the Holiday Inn. If Beth hadn't told him that she reviewed the video camera film at the Holiday Inn and Natalee was not on it being dropped off by the suspects as they insisted he may not have re-interviewed them at all. But he already knew that Joran and the Kalpoe's had lied about dropping Natalee off.
Dennis Jacobs, the career narcotics agent, was instrumental in orchestrating the arrest of the security guards along with the Prosecutor Karin Janssen. They did this after knowing full well that the 3 had lied about dropping Natalee off.
Booty, the beach bum drug dealer was the one who swears he saw them going in and out of Natalee's room and the reason Janssen stated they "have more than circumstantial evidence" to hold them on kidnapping and murder charges.
Now we are supposed to believe Janssen had "more than circumstantial evidence" against the security guards but not more than circumstantial evidence against Joran Van der sloot?
Art Wood found a belt similar to the one Joran is holding in a photo in a spot searched by Fred Golba. At one point the search dog began digging in the sand in the exact spot and dug up pieces of plastic that Fred Golba wanted to record and enter into evidence. Dennis Jacobs threw them into the wind saying "they were of no value."
In October, Dennis Jacobs took a statement from Dave Holloway regarding the meeting that Dave had with Paul Van der sloot in August. Jacobs questioning lasted 3 hours and when Dave saw an english translation prepared by Jacobs it was reduced to one page. Three hours of questioning and it failed to even relate to the subject that they covered. Instead, it made refernece to Beth and Jug and the Natalee Holloway fund. The statement was witnessed by another Police Officer who was not even present during the testimony.
Insane and unprofessional?
Later that month, a young dispatcher in the police department informed Dave that Jan van der straaten was a frequent visitor to the office. To meet with Dennis Jacobs.
After one year, there appears to be no evidence and yet Jacobs and Janssen are still in place.
It was called a murder when the guards were arrested, why? You have the Prosecutor calling it a homicide, Dompig says it was an overdose and van der straaten called it murder. How? On what evidence can they make these statements yet cannot connect them to a suspect?
Insane and unprofessional?
What type of prosecutor would take a job where there is supposedly very little crime? Can it be possible that Dompig and Jacobs were simply at odds over procedure but both had the same goals? Or is it more likely that one was trying to sabatoge the investigation?
With Dompig having stated "the 3 are guilty as hell" and confirming Natalee's death then being forced to retract it, does it not appear that Dompig was trying to tell us something?
And now he's gone, and not Jacobs or Janssen.
Karin Janssen could not get DNA from the 3 suspects? A procedural mistake? This alone is highly suspicious. How is it possible that Joran Van der sloot could be held for 3 months and yet Janssen failed to get DNA from him and the Kalpoe's whom she arrested twice?
Insane and unprofessional?
And if you have Paul van der sloot arrested and Joran as the main suspect, how is it possible you cannot get a search warrant for these suspects property? The incompetence is so great that you have to wonder if that is the plan.
"We have ways of dealing with these things." Nelson Oduber
Karin Janssen, by normal standards has appeared to be so completely incompetent that it has to be considered just what exactly is the role of a prosecutor in a place that claims to have little crime yet is world reknown for drug trafficking? Does anyone think Jacobs and Janssen are where they are to eliminate the drug trade from Aruba?
Her consciousness of guilt manifested in her inability to communicate with Natalee's family, her 2 week vacation prior to the suspects release, her inability to secure DNA from the suspects or convince a judge to issue a search warrant for suspects she arrested, and her failure to prevent Paul and Joran van der sloot from being compensated, and she is still even has a job?
Or is she doing exactly what she is supposed to?
Is it a coincidence that an Aruban court that we were continually told has laws we don't understand seems to be waiting for the outcome of civil trial in the U.S. to decide on the amount of Paulus's compensation? How are they related? It seems to be a make it up as you go legal system.
And is it a coincidence that Joe Tacopina claims to have re-read thousands of documents and suddenly at the very same time we have a flurry of new arrests that went nowhere?
Just what is she doing? Promising fireworks and writing the U.S. Justice department asking if Beth is related to Hitler.
You can only surmise that Karin Janssen is part of a coverup to sabatoge this case. Dompig has intimated that he was only doing what he was told by superiors. I believe him. I believe he thought he would be the Chief of Police and was trying to broker a de facto plea bargain whereby he would confirm Natalee is dead without finding fault for Dutch Nationals the Van der sloots.
But on whose order? It can only be Nelson Oduber.
Karin Janssen came to Aruba for a reason, and it was not to clean up crime. By any standard she has failed Natalee completely, yet probably succeeded in carrying out the wishes of her superiors.
3 women had come forward before Natalee arrived in Aruba claiming they were raped by Joran Van der sloot. 2 of them have been paid for their silence. This comes right from police reports. A third was handled by a child advocate. The security guards have also been silenced. Not even one interview? Nothing. They were scapegoats, now rewarded for their inconvenience and convenience to a coverup.
The question remains, how do they know Natalee is dead? Is it the blood in Deepak's car? The Joran confession that "something bad happened." Or the Chicago videos where on the day Natalee was confirmed dead, there appears to be a coroner's van and the VCB working in large numbers around an obvious crime scene?
Those videos are begging an explanaition. The first was they were preparing to put up a sign. But when asked why a coroner's van, the VCB and men in suits were needed for placing a sign 50 yards away, that answer was retracted.
Now a new reasoning will be brought forth, they actually did find something, but I can only guess that we will hear another familiar phrase.
"It is of no value."
That sums up the sadistic and barbaric nature of these people in Aruba and their feelings about Natalee. The depth of anti-American feelings used as a reason to defend a sociopathic liar, like Joran Van der sloot. Still the last know person to be with Natalee.
Can a case close when Joran first said he dropped her at the hotel, then the beach and Deepak picked him up, then the beach and Satish picked him up?
Finally, from Tamikosmom, these "theories" are based on what? Why is it so difficult for them to name names?
How anyone can not see what this type of speculation does to the family of Natalee is obscene. To be able to put out these "theories" while the people they are theorizing about are walking free is sadistic and cruel and will not be forgotten.
Janssen and Jacobs will also be held accountable and deserve to be subject to the very same treatment they have dished out.
Karin Janssen and Dennis Jacobs, you are cowardly men and will receive no mercy when your day of reckoning comes. You have fooled some people but not all.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html
June 11, 2005
David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body. However, Cruz later retracted the statement, saying he was a victim of a "misinformation campaign."
Gerold Dompig, Deputy Police Commissioner
http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/...icles/79383.php
June 12, 2005
Deputy Police Commissioner, Gerold Dompig, told The Associated Press that one of three young men arrested in the case admitted “something bad happened” to Holloway and was leading police to the scene. Prosecutors refused to comment on Dompig's statement, and Dompig Himself refused to identify which of the three young men who took Holloway to the Northern beach the night she went missing made the statement.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...644_page3.shtml
Dompig says he believes Paulus Van der Sloot does know more than he has been telling about the circumstances surrounding Holloway's disappearance.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/22/48hours/main1430644_page4.shtml
The Aruban authorities’ new theory is that someone, someone possibly very close to the young suspects, took the time to carefully hide the body, not once but maybe twice, literally re-burying her.
Took the time to carefully hide the body? Who gave them time to do this?
Karin Janssen and Dennis Jacobs of course.
Koen's name first surfaced in June when Beth Twitty was shown some of the suspect statements by the Prosecutor, Janssen, and in those statements Joran had made reference to Koen's father's boat. The same month Dave Holloway was told by one of Joran's classmates that they used Koen's father's boat to get rid of the body.
Koen Gottenbos lied to the police and the Gottenbos'have moved off Aruba. The assistant Prosecutor resigned over Janssen's refusal to question Koen. Only the father came in to speak for him.
Dave Hollowy requested they bring Koen in for questioning and that someone other than Dennis Jacobs conduct the interview. Dompig told Dave Holloway he would have to consult with Jacobs.
Later that evening Dave kept getting urgent phone messages from Dennis Jacobs. Dave was unable to answer his phone because he was searching a swamp but was aware of the calls. Dennis Jacobs even called Dave's office in Mississippi and told them it was urgent that he speak with Dave.
When Dave finally answered Jacobs calls he was frantic, almost panicked, wondering why Dave had met with Chief Dompig? Jacobs told Dave that he should not meet with Dompig without first consulting with him. Dave felt Jacobs was concerned that Dave would relay some info or evidence to Dompig without him being able to control it.
Insane and unprofessional?
Dennis Jacobs, the man who Dave first approached and was asked "how much money do you have?". Dennis Jacobs, a career narcotics officer ILLEGALLY appointed as lead investigator without experience in missing persons by Jan van der straaten. His appointment created hard feelings within the police department.
He is one of the only constant figures in the entire investigation, the man responsible for EVIDENCE.
Dennis Jacobs interviewed the suspects on May 31st, 2005 and he admitted that there were inconsistencies in their statements, however, he didn't think it was necessary to re-interview them for days after they lied about dropping Natalee off at the Holiday Inn. If Beth hadn't told him that she reviewed the video camera film at the Holiday Inn and Natalee was not on it being dropped off by the suspects as they insisted he may not have re-interviewed them at all. But he already knew that Joran and the Kalpoe's had lied about dropping Natalee off.
Dennis Jacobs, the career narcotics agent, was instrumental in orchestrating the arrest of the security guards along with the Prosecutor Karin Janssen. They did this after knowing full well that the 3 had lied about dropping Natalee off.
Booty, the beach bum drug dealer was the one who swears he saw them going in and out of Natalee's room and the reason Janssen stated they "have more than circumstantial evidence" to hold them on kidnapping and murder charges.
Now we are supposed to believe Janssen had "more than circumstantial evidence" against the security guards but not more than circumstantial evidence against Joran Van der sloot?
Art Wood found a belt similar to the one Joran is holding in a photo in a spot searched by Fred Golba. At one point the search dog began digging in the sand in the exact spot and dug up pieces of plastic that Fred Golba wanted to record and enter into evidence. Dennis Jacobs threw them into the wind saying "they were of no value."
In October, Dennis Jacobs took a statement from Dave Holloway regarding the meeting that Dave had with Paul Van der sloot in August. Jacobs questioning lasted 3 hours and when Dave saw an english translation prepared by Jacobs it was reduced to one page. Three hours of questioning and it failed to even relate to the subject that they covered. Instead, it made refernece to Beth and Jug and the Natalee Holloway fund. The statement was witnessed by another Police Officer who was not even present during the testimony.
Insane and unprofessional?
Later that month, a young dispatcher in the police department informed Dave that Jan van der straaten was a frequent visitor to the office. To meet with Dennis Jacobs.
After one year, there appears to be no evidence and yet Jacobs and Janssen are still in place.
It was called a murder when the guards were arrested, why? You have the Prosecutor calling it a homicide, Dompig says it was an overdose and van der straaten called it murder. How? On what evidence can they make these statements yet cannot connect them to a suspect?
Insane and unprofessional?
What type of prosecutor would take a job where there is supposedly very little crime? Can it be possible that Dompig and Jacobs were simply at odds over procedure but both had the same goals? Or is it more likely that one was trying to sabatoge the investigation?
With Dompig having stated "the 3 are guilty as hell" and confirming Natalee's death then being forced to retract it, does it not appear that Dompig was trying to tell us something?
And now he's gone, and not Jacobs or Janssen.
Karin Janssen could not get DNA from the 3 suspects? A procedural mistake? This alone is highly suspicious. How is it possible that Joran Van der sloot could be held for 3 months and yet Janssen failed to get DNA from him and the Kalpoe's whom she arrested twice?
Insane and unprofessional?
And if you have Paul van der sloot arrested and Joran as the main suspect, how is it possible you cannot get a search warrant for these suspects property? The incompetence is so great that you have to wonder if that is the plan.
"We have ways of dealing with these things." Nelson Oduber
Karin Janssen, by normal standards has appeared to be so completely incompetent that it has to be considered just what exactly is the role of a prosecutor in a place that claims to have little crime yet is world reknown for drug trafficking? Does anyone think Jacobs and Janssen are where they are to eliminate the drug trade from Aruba?
Her consciousness of guilt manifested in her inability to communicate with Natalee's family, her 2 week vacation prior to the suspects release, her inability to secure DNA from the suspects or convince a judge to issue a search warrant for suspects she arrested, and her failure to prevent Paul and Joran van der sloot from being compensated, and she is still even has a job?
Or is she doing exactly what she is supposed to?
Is it a coincidence that an Aruban court that we were continually told has laws we don't understand seems to be waiting for the outcome of civil trial in the U.S. to decide on the amount of Paulus's compensation? How are they related? It seems to be a make it up as you go legal system.
And is it a coincidence that Joe Tacopina claims to have re-read thousands of documents and suddenly at the very same time we have a flurry of new arrests that went nowhere?
Just what is she doing? Promising fireworks and writing the U.S. Justice department asking if Beth is related to Hitler.
You can only surmise that Karin Janssen is part of a coverup to sabatoge this case. Dompig has intimated that he was only doing what he was told by superiors. I believe him. I believe he thought he would be the Chief of Police and was trying to broker a de facto plea bargain whereby he would confirm Natalee is dead without finding fault for Dutch Nationals the Van der sloots.
But on whose order? It can only be Nelson Oduber.
Karin Janssen came to Aruba for a reason, and it was not to clean up crime. By any standard she has failed Natalee completely, yet probably succeeded in carrying out the wishes of her superiors.
3 women had come forward before Natalee arrived in Aruba claiming they were raped by Joran Van der sloot. 2 of them have been paid for their silence. This comes right from police reports. A third was handled by a child advocate. The security guards have also been silenced. Not even one interview? Nothing. They were scapegoats, now rewarded for their inconvenience and convenience to a coverup.
The question remains, how do they know Natalee is dead? Is it the blood in Deepak's car? The Joran confession that "something bad happened." Or the Chicago videos where on the day Natalee was confirmed dead, there appears to be a coroner's van and the VCB working in large numbers around an obvious crime scene?
Those videos are begging an explanaition. The first was they were preparing to put up a sign. But when asked why a coroner's van, the VCB and men in suits were needed for placing a sign 50 yards away, that answer was retracted.
Now a new reasoning will be brought forth, they actually did find something, but I can only guess that we will hear another familiar phrase.
"It is of no value."
That sums up the sadistic and barbaric nature of these people in Aruba and their feelings about Natalee. The depth of anti-American feelings used as a reason to defend a sociopathic liar, like Joran Van der sloot. Still the last know person to be with Natalee.
Can a case close when Joran first said he dropped her at the hotel, then the beach and Deepak picked him up, then the beach and Satish picked him up?
Finally, from Tamikosmom, these "theories" are based on what? Why is it so difficult for them to name names?
How anyone can not see what this type of speculation does to the family of Natalee is obscene. To be able to put out these "theories" while the people they are theorizing about are walking free is sadistic and cruel and will not be forgotten.
Janssen and Jacobs will also be held accountable and deserve to be subject to the very same treatment they have dished out.
Karin Janssen and Dennis Jacobs, you are cowardly men and will receive no mercy when your day of reckoning comes. You have fooled some people but not all.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html
June 11, 2005
David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body. However, Cruz later retracted the statement, saying he was a victim of a "misinformation campaign."
Gerold Dompig, Deputy Police Commissioner
http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/...icles/79383.php
June 12, 2005
Deputy Police Commissioner, Gerold Dompig, told The Associated Press that one of three young men arrested in the case admitted “something bad happened” to Holloway and was leading police to the scene. Prosecutors refused to comment on Dompig's statement, and Dompig Himself refused to identify which of the three young men who took Holloway to the Northern beach the night she went missing made the statement.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...644_page3.shtml
Dompig says he believes Paulus Van der Sloot does know more than he has been telling about the circumstances surrounding Holloway's disappearance.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/22/48hours/main1430644_page4.shtml
The Aruban authorities’ new theory is that someone, someone possibly very close to the young suspects, took the time to carefully hide the body, not once but maybe twice, literally re-burying her.
Took the time to carefully hide the body? Who gave them time to do this?
Karin Janssen and Dennis Jacobs of course.
posted by Deetch at
11:08 AM
May 18th, 2006 at 9:36 pm
This is from Nova where Paulus says he is a replacement judge and step down when Joran became a suspect, so maybe that is what Joe T was talking about. What I don’t understand is how he can be a replacement judge, if he didn’t pass being a judge in training?????? If there was a video of Natalee in HI with Frances.. the prosecutor would be on that story and JQK would know about it.
Reporter: Which function do you have here at the island? Because many stories go around about that. What is your function?
Current Suspect Paulus van der SLOOT: I am a replacing member of the joint court of justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba [plaatsvervangend lid van het gemeenschappelijk hof van justitie van de nederlandse antillen en Aruba] and I am appointed for a period of three years, from January the first, 2003, until January the first, 2006.
Reporter: So, you are replacement judge?
Current Suspect Paulus van der SLOOT: Yes.
Reporter: Do you know the people very well, for example, the people here from the public prosecutors’ office that ordered your detention?
Current Suspect Paulus van der SLOOT: Yes, for sure, because, before that, I have worked for eight years as chief of the cabinet of the prosecutor general [kabinetschef van de procureur generaal].
Reporter: So, you also know the current prosecutor general?
Current Suspect Paulus van der SLOOT: Yes.
Reporter: Mrs. Croes.
Current Suspect Paulus van der SLOOT: Yes.
Reporter: Yes, and what does that mean when your colleagues stop by to arrest you?
Current Suspect Paulus van der SLOOT: That gives a feeling of absurdity. It is indeed almost unimaginable that by someone you actually know very well, where you worked together with for a long time, that that one comes to tell you that you are suspected of complicity to murder.
Reporter: Who was that in your case?
Current Suspect Paulus van der SLOOT: That was, in this case, that was the leader of the team of police commissioners.
Reporter: Jan van der Straaten.
Current Suspect Paulus van der SLOOT: That was Jan van der Straaten, yes.
Reporter: And you know each other very well?
Current Suspect Paulus van der SLOOT: Yes.